Elon Musk fans truly believe he can make Dogecoin the currency of Earth
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Scary Devil Monastery
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Myeah.
I keep thinking that if Trump and his ketamine-marinated monkey's paw turn out to be inept enough, the collapse may come sooner and with a minimum of misery (well, a US broken back to the 70's) see every last MAGA enabler in jail.
But there's good odds that conditions will worsen slowly enough they have time to start processing that unending list of enemies a fascist government needs. It may be decades or generations before an american sees a free election again.
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Ah yes, just as the Germans famously rose up when the Nazis built death camps?
This is a hilarious fantasy: if things reach the point you're talking about, there is no uprising, trust me. There are plenty of off-ramps, but they all require functioning civil society and rule of law. Once that breaks down, then it takes decades to rebuild. See: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Haiti, Somalia, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, etc
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i was on that speculative hype train in January
- for a brief moment
hoping they would Liz Truss themselves
revealing their incompetence so starkly that the established financial markets would have to step in
even posting my sudden sporadic bouts of optimism on these forums
That period of vanishing mirages of hope didn’t last too long
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again that list of countries
.. and somehow missing the obvious connections
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Is this the Nazi Elon Musk trying to hedge against the impending collapse of his Tesla shares?
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Scary Devil Monastery
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Germany never got to that point. They were beaten down long before their society had the chance to collapse.
This will not happen to any nuclear power, least of all the US.
No, that nation will, once the fascists have burned themselves and the country out, likely enter the same era of politics which France did after the revolutionary years.
It will be utter shit for a few more turns of the wheel and I personally doubt what emerges from the current regime will be either democratic or a republic.
One thing is for sure - that what the current electorate has allowed to happen will not be reversible. The perception of elections and voters choice may linger for a bit, but...you aren't getting your country back by peaceful means, and you havent suffered enough to muster the steam to take it back by other means.
You said it yourself. The off-ramps require rule of law and a functioning civil society.
Well, the law now is what Trump says it is. SCOTUS permanently recused themselves even if he orders every judge and DA to rule against him killed or ignored.
And "civil society" has not been a thing in the US since 2016.
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No one ever predicted that Biden or Harris would get anyone a utopia. A lot of us in fact complained about how the status quo would basically not move at all with Biden, and that it seemed that would be the same with Harris.
But we were also going to tell everyone that the status quo was better than anything Trump was about to do.
And now, he's doing all of it. He lied and said that he didn't have anything to do with Project 2025, and now he's doing all of it that he can manage.
You better start believing in dystopias, you're in one.
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Scary Devil Monastery
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I'm not sure where you read all of what you're responding to. I'm saying that there is no off ramp from where MAGA has taken the US. History is pretty damn clear about how fascist governments eventually fall.
Best case scenario is more or less France, post revolution. They passed through several turns of political instability, authoritarian rule, and arguably brief repeated dips into fascism before they got to where they are now. Which still is far from ideal, I'd have to ssy.
Trump having SCOTUS declare him beyond legal sanction and him just writing the SEC and the election oversight committe into bondage to himself? That's not reversible unless by some miracle every election producing a non-trumper candidate isn't declared invalid now.
Point at any single halfway plausible way of getting the US off this track other than waiting until US misery is so widespread as to cause an uprising or some of Trump's new generals makes a south american-style power grab.
Because I'm not seeing any options here. Not when the teflon done has rendered himself utterly immune to the rule of law.
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Also, people are being disappeared. It’s just immigrants at this point, so most people don’t notice.
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Well, faith and the legal requirement to pay your taxes in that currency, backed by the state’s monopoly on violence and enormous capacity to dole out that violence as it sees fit.
That’s also a good motivator for fiat adoption.
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Doggy has always been my preferred pronunciation. I don't care if I'm wrong.
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There's already camps. WTF you think Gitmo Bay is?
BUT, it's not all Guillotines and violence:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Winton
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Schindler
Caring about others is the easiest thing there is. Cleaning up/dealing with the damage caused by those who don't is something us humans write history about. And poetry, and songs, and mythology, and religion, and art, and industrial/commercial/financial regulations, and laws, and constitutions, and bibles, and... pretty much everything that defines us as a species.
"Love thy neighbor as thyself" is how to be a bleeding-heart liberal (which we both are). And yeah, it hurts our souls and cuts our hearts (thus the "bleeding")... But what other choice is there?
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Scary Devil Monastery
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The fact that US law enforcement has been riddled with white supremacists and has a very long standing corruption issue exacerbates the problem.
Easier for a militia to beat a homeless, trans, civil activist, or brown person to death when the local police are more likely to keep bypassers from interfering than to stop the beating.
When the fascists began taking over the courts, law enforcement, the civil servants, the school boards, the state and municipality legislatures and mayor's offices the vadt majority of the US saw fit to just shrug and say 'not my circus, not my monkeys'.
And now the president has appointed himself king, is rolling out project 2025, and STILL there are those who think that it'll all swing back next election.
It's that myth of american exceptionalism. It has to be. Because no one fully rational looking at Trump specifically taking over the SEC and the election oversight committee could possibly bank on there being elections again.
Hell, he said it out loud with that 'Vote for me and you'll never have to vote again' line.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...ont-have-vote-after-this-election-2024-07-27/
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And now I want a poster of a blurry UFO, but the UFO is now on fire.
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Scary Devil Monastery
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What other choice? None. That's my point. I still differ on that it's easy. Its not. Caring is hard.
People who don't give a single fuck for others have it oh so much easier. They can pass through a homeless alley or a KZ and feel nothing beyond whether they want chicken or meat for dinner.
Or read about the latest hate crime with no more reaction than mild irritation at having to turn one page further to get the sports results.
And yes. Gitmo. White supremacists in law enforcement. Christian fanatics on school boards. Fascists in a thousand leadership positions. The prep work may not have been planned, but the US has been ripe for fascism for a while. Draped in the american flag and carrying a cross, as it were.
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The fact that US law enforcement
… was founded on the principles of white supremacy and corruption is the problem.
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Scary Devil Monastery
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...aannnd we're back to the US having been bound to this course since about 1865.
Not that i disagree.
Arguably this was unavoidable ever since 16th and 17th century europe exiled its own Taliban to the New World.
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(The following is not saying "YOU'RE WRONG", it is only explaining my understanding of the origin of "doge".)
I thought it was from how Japanese adopted "doggy" into their language as ど (do) ゲ (ge), pronounced "doh-geh" (as opposed to their "inu" (dog)/"koinu" (puppy)).
So, yes, "doggy" is closer than "doj".
(Edit: had the ko on the wrong end of "puppy")
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If Dogecoin becomes the coin of the realm, I will learn flint knapping and from then on deal only in arrowheads and spear tips.
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I generally agree with your sentiment so pardon my forthcoming pedantry. It’s the econ major in me that has to point out that fiat currencies work less on faith and more because we are required by law (and thus threat of force) to use them to transact with our governments. US citizens pay their taxes in dollars or they go to jail. Federal, state, and local funds are disbursed in dollars. These laws are the fiats that make the currency work.
The “faith” required is that the government that issued the currency will continue to function, which in a stable country doesn’t take a lot of faith, really.
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It's odd that a much more impactful crypto story just happened, involving the open bribery of Donald Trump via meme coin, and the SEC suit just got stayed, and will likely be dismissed. Why write about Elon meme coin that affects almost nobody instead?
https://popular.info/p/breaking-sec-halts-fraud-prosecution
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When President Musk pays government workers exclusively in Dogecoin and rugpulls it he will gain untold amounts of wealth. He will finally be worth trillions of dollars.
/s but maybe not in these entertaining times of unchecked oligarch control over our politics and economy / monetary system.
/s but maybe not in these entertaining times of unchecked oligarch control over our politics and economy / monetary system.
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Conversely, crypto requires (at the minimum) faith that you will still have access to the internet… access which can be cut off by the governments you don’t have faith in to begin with.
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you can't blame the suckers for hoping for a bigger sucker to come along
they probably won't even be disappointed
they probably won't even be disappointed
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any pretence that the America empire hasn’t fallen
hasn’t degenerated into a shabby criminal enterprise
just went out the window with the clumsily attempted shake down of Ukraine in the Whitehouse today
nothing Chamberlain or Oswald Mosley did is comparable to the sell out just broadcasted to the world
we are truly fucked
hasn’t degenerated into a shabby criminal enterprise
just went out the window with the clumsily attempted shake down of Ukraine in the Whitehouse today
nothing Chamberlain or Oswald Mosley did is comparable to the sell out just broadcasted to the world
we are truly fucked
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And I differ on scale.
I pass through a homeless alley and I'll probably see people I know by name because I lived there for 9 months. I witnessed a random double homicide on my way to 1st period Algebra in highschool. The mother of my child killed herself because of the autism I was born with. The only 2 family members I have left have kicked me out of their lives more than once. One of my best friends killed themselves because those of us he loved the most were too wrapped up in our own suffering to help him through his.
And that's a pretty fuckin' utopian life to people that ended up in mass graves at best.
Remember the past.
Fight for the future.
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ETA: Stop worrying about how easy it is for assholes. Start making it harder for them.
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Feel free to deport yourself back to the Daily Inbred. Conservative "news" exists for the sole purpose of telling freaks like yourself what you want to hear.
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